again, with respect to steel production, in order for the united statese continue to grow our steel industry, to continue to grow cleaner steel, what you see is a number of programs that we are putting in place to ensure the integrity of trade systems. the challenge right now, and steel is an excellent example, that there is no such thing as free trade in steel. the market in steel globally is significantly distorted by what we are calling nonmarket policies and practices, from china. supply being created, production plans that are not linked to demand. what happens is we have a significant depression of prices and it requires economies like the united states to work with other economies that want to be open, that want to openly trade, to take more significant defensive measures against the unfair practices that have affected the sector. anne-marie: ambassador, do you see similar dynamics happening with the ev market? katherine: 100%. it is the same pattern animal -- it is the same pattern that we see in different sectors. the challenge is this has not been our practice. we have really adher